But even beyond the maester’s conspiracy’s membership, is their influence. They’re at more of a remove and they have other considerations the Ironborn, the Skagosi, the Wildlings , but it’s pretty steady contact. Eddard rallied the North, Robert conquered first the Stormlands back in the three battles of Summerhall and then marched to meet with the armies of Eddard and Hoster Tully. Even those guys could really trust each other – which is laughable if you keep in mind how Robert treats Jon’s son, how Ned thinks of the Lannisters, how the Baratheons kill each other, etc. In all cases the North had either cause for concern or was made a pretty great deal.
During the that event the Blacks almost didn’t bother to involve the Starks due to how far the North was from the main action. As for why not as Duskendale, there’s a couple possibilities. We should have no doubt that Jon had developed strong relationships with Ned and Robert, and that Ned and Robert had developed strong relationships with each other. Although events lead to that end. Oldtown maesters are the worst of all. Did the Targaryen kings wake up every morning after the death of the last dragon under Aegon III’s reign and say, that’s all right we will just be kings like these we conquered and accept the teachings of everything that separated them as Valyrians and the “rightful” kings of their domains? Lost husband who was under the command of Eddard Stark?
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When you have a region as large and isolated as the North that reasoning is just multiplied. The theory does not follow the evidence, the evidence follows the theory. If he was betrayed and his efforts were sabotaged then perhaps the men who hated his reforms and wanted to prevent them from being pushed through with the help of dragons worked against him?
When you osuthron it up with he was only a “Lannister crony” from the moment Tywin showed his awesome leadership from, what? Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community.
Idiot’s Guide to Southron Ambitions, P.1
At which point, if the Targaryens wanted war they would have to rely on Dorne, and perhaps the Tyrells, to support their rule. He is, after his betrayal of Aerys with the opening of the gates to King’s Landing, a top candidate for the maester’s conspiracy that Marwyn warns Sam about, although obviously not in the Citadel at the time. Reason supplied by their own guidance essaay approved learning.
They tend to us when we are sick and injured, or distraught over the illness of a parent or a child. Sometimes they heal us, and we are duly grateful. Eddard and Robert both went to the Eyrie for fostering. Esday is no peace to seal, and just being buddies with both lords by war doesn’t exactly justify this.
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Or did that raven never make it to Tywin? Not to say word couldn’t have been spread by others at court, or maesters, but to what extent it was, I am not sure. View all Cars Sites.
Hoster Tully, for example, wed Minisa Whent. Although events lead to that end. Switch View No Spoilers Share this: As for why esday as Duskendale, there’s a couple possibilities.
For a Lord it makes political sense to marry into a his own bannerman. The Greyjoys use that strategy while most of the Northmen are away and get mixed results. One is that Aerys’ kidnapping put the Southron Ambitions folk on the wrong foot politically – you can get lords to rally against an unjust king trampling on the rights of oppressed lords, but it’s a lot harder when the oppressed lord kidnaps a king who’s been peaceful.
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Let’s dwell in that idea for a while. If there was a conspiracy in the Citadel in the past, it was an anti-dragon conspiracy, not an anti-Targaryen conspiracy. Or did they become acquainted some time later? In fact, they normally marry with their own bannermen. What are the other theories? I’ve dealt with this above, but of course the case against Pycelle’s involvement in sabotage and murder at Summerhall isn’t open and shut.
Wyman Manderly is the most Machiavellian Northern Lord but even he openly taunts and insults the Freys. And yet, suddenly, Lord Rickard marries one son with House Tully and sends the other to foster with House Arryn, both happening sssay be the direct neighbors of the North.
soouthron If you have a question about Game of Thrones, please note I am no longer in that fandom and do not watch the show anymore. But there is actually a prelude to these events.
Marriage ties mean pretty much nothing in this world. Aside from the Lannisters, the Starks, and the Arryns there weren’t even proper royal houses there. The loss of his own heirs Elbert and Denys weakened his dynasty severely, and the bad marriage with Lysa Tully let it face extinction.
Perhaps the Greatjon said it best Why should they rule over me and xmbitions, from some flowery seat in Highgarden or Dorne?